Arnold Schwarzenegger for President of California

This blog is for discussing California's Secession from the Federal Government. Please sign the petition at http://www.petitiononline.com/casec/petition.html . The petition details the reasons why California should secede.

Sunday, December 26, 2004

More Succession Resources

Here are some more california succession related resource you may find interesting:
* http://www.impeachnow.org/
* http://moveoncalifornia.org/
* californiansecessionistparty@yahoogroups.com

Monday, December 06, 2004

Comment 23: Claims of unpatriotism on the left are true

From the Campus Activist (http://www.kerry-sucks.com/cgi-bin/stateslinks.cgi):

After Bush's re-eleciton, liberals are demoralized across the nation. There is a movement from leftists to have California to secede from the nation. It looks as though all of those claims of unpatriotism on the left are true. Anyone who would want to secede by definition can't be pro-American!
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For a lot of people it is not possible to think of issues in terms other than right or left. This person assumes I am a leftist and that only a demoralized liberal could possibly want to secede. This is the kind of small minded thinking that has come to dominate American politics. I wish I could time travel and have this person talk to our enlightenment age founding fathers.

I am a Californian and in current political terms I am and always have been an independent. Though I know it's impossible to argue with this type of thinking. As support I'll appeal to that very unamerican Declaration of Independence, which says we have the right to secede:

"... Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just
powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form
of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right
of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new
Government, laying its foundation on such principles and
organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most
likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

If you can't recognize this right as ultimately patriotic and American, the you make the argument for secession all the stronger.

On the web: Ken Layne's Blog

http://www.kenlayne.com/2004_11_07_kenlayne_archive.html

On the web: Julian Bond's Blog

http://us.ecademy.com/node.php?id=34635

On the web: Campus Activist

http://www.kerry-sucks.com/cgi-bin/stateslinks.cgi

After Bush's re-eleciton, liberals are demoralized across the nation. There is a movement from leftists to have California to secede from the nation. It looks as though all of those claims of unpatriotism on the left are true. Anyone who would want to secede by definition can't be pro-American!

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I'll respond to this issue separately.

On the web: Progressive Student Alliance

From the Progressive Student Alliance:

Someone has even created an online petition for California to secede from the United States.


Unfortunately, as much as I wish that California would secede, it is not currently anywhere near to being a viable nation on its own. ...

On the web: voidstar

http://www.voidstar.com/node.php?id=2046

On the web: Sound Opinions Message Board

http://www.soundopinions.net/forum/index.php?s=6b52f3f7268c40f6ed6882c0d1636a5c&showtopic=4818&pid=58609&st=20&#entry58609

In the news: Call to secede sounded

Really good article on the petition by Larry Wilson in the Pasadena Star at:
http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/Stories/0,1413,206%7E30374%7E2519331,00.html

"Interestingly, the petition is nothing like a merely Democratic rant. Without knowing who its author
Traci Franklin"

I am glad this is his take. That's the tone I was going for. It's not a republican or democratic issue, it's a matter of Californian's being able to decide for California. I don't care to have any national party have control over California.

"I'm guessing from much of its free-market, high- tech language emphasizing misuse of federal software patents and the stifling of California creativity by Washington that she's a Silicon Valley type."

Very insightful.

Comment 22: Let's not be left or right, just free!

My sentiments exactly. It's not a republican or a democratic issue. Party politics is the problem. Freedom won't solve all of California's problems. But freedom will let California be responsible for solving her own problems, and that's the best you can ask for.

Comment 21: Go for it ya morons. We'll see how long you remain the world's "fifth largest economy."

I agree. Once free I predict our economy will grow at an incredible rate.

Comment 20: Bye! Enjoy your Stalinist Socialism Hell

It's interesting how some people assume California will have a socialist government. It's hard to imagine a more socialist government than the current US government. It's big in every dimension and is only getting bigger. This government won't even let you buy drugs from Cananda! It is constantly trying to reverse states rights. Ask Oregon.

California has one of the most productive economies in the world. Do you think it would have got that way if it was socialist? Red states suck up money they didn't earn at an alarming rate. What is more socialist than that? Your personal freedoms have been eroded. What is more socialist than that? California is constantly trying to expand personal freedoms, or don't you mean those kind of persoal freedoms? Wake up.

Comment 19: Good riddance

Lot of comment like this and "Don't let the door hit you in the behind."

It's curious how much hatred people have for California.

Comment 18: The bear flag is my flag.

Anyone have a good new flag design?

Comment 17: BUH-BYE...Take your ILLEGALS w/you!

No comment necessary.

Comment 16: So long, losers. Finally, we can dole out those 55 electoral votes to more deserving states!

And how do you determine deserving? Based on merit? Surely not as California is far more productive than any other state. You must mean more deserving based on a ideology. And that only proves the point of why California must rule herself. A reality based community will out produce your ideological based community a million fold. For your future take a look at muslim controlled nation states.

Comment 15: Don't forget, the majority land mass of Kalifornia voted BUSH!

The point in making a separate Californian nation is not to make a space where everyone thinks the same. I think that is the goal of much of the rest of the nation. The point is to let Californian's decide for California. Where that will lead who can say?

Comment 14: I'm a conservative and I support your leaving!

This is the attitude that fuels the perpetual exploitation of California.

Comment 13: Given California's educational system, which ranks 49th out of 50 ...

>Given California's educational system, which ranks
>49th out of 50 in the nation, the rest of the country
>could probably benefit from its secession.

Imagine if California's money could stay in California to help pay for education? Imagine if we could do away with the government regulations and mandates that pervert the system?

I know we can do better.

And the university system is still top notch.

Comment 12: We have two major pracitcal problems, oil and water

California does produce oil, if it's enough I do not know. I believe we can solve these problems. Perhaps we go solar. Perhaps we build safer pebble nuclear power as a transition technology. We have an ocean full of fresh water if we have the power to purify it. We also have a free trade based economy so we can buy oil just like anyone else, though this has obvious problems. I am sure they are solveable.

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California's Oil Production

http://www.consrv.ca.gov/index/news/2003%20News%20Releases/NR2002-02_OilandGasReport.htm

SACRAMENTO -- According to the 2001 Annual Report of the State Oil and Gas Supervisor, released today by the California Department of Conservation, oil production decreased in California for the sixth straight year, while natural gas production continued an incremental rise over the same six-year period.

According to the report, oil production was down across the board from last year’s figures – 3.8 percent for onshore fields, 7.4 percent for state offshore leases and 7.6 percent for federal offshore leases, for an overall decline of 4.5 percent. Average production was about 800,000 barrels of oil per day, compared to 842,000 per day in 2000. California continued to rank fourth among oil producing states behind Louisiana, Texas and Alaska, respectively.

California produced 293.7 million barrels of oil in 2001 from 47,263 wells in 206 active oil fields, including federal offshore fields. The 2000 figure was 307.4 million barrels. The all-time high for the state was 423.9 million barrels in 1985.
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Comment 11: never happen, but boy would it be fun.

I believe it can happen. Not easily, but it can happen. Nobody thought the colonies could win freedom from Britain, but they did.

This would be a good jumping off point to discuss how it could happen.

Comment 10: Yes, but we need a leader

And thus the title of this blog. I think Arnold could help California become its own country. I know some of you hate this idea, but think it through. California will not be utopia. Becoming a country is a not a new land grab so all our pet theories on government can come true. California will be a compromise. It will take a lot of persuading at all levels for California secession to happen. Arnold is in a good position to make it happen:

1. Arnold has the personal popularity and the intelligence to drive secession.
2. Arnold, when he thinks about, has the most to gain from California secession. He will not become president of the US. The hurdles are just to high. Arnold could easily become president of California.
3. Being president of California makes you instantly one of the most powerful people in the world. That has to be attractive to Arnold.
4. Arnold probably detests the religious right as much as anyone. It must kill him that he has to kiss up to them to move forward in the republican party. If he could see a different path to power he might take it.
5. I honestly believe Arnold would believe in the ideals behind a separate and free California.

Comment 9: Get out or we Jesus freaks will put you out!

This is the kind of comment that fills me with the most sadness and makes it obvious why stewardship of the founding vision for the US must move on to California. They wish for religious rule over the constitution. The world has tried this before and it has been found wanting as a model. Hopefully enlightenment ideals will win and in California all people can live free.

Comment 8: Time for some new thinking!

That's was the motivation behind the California Secession petition at http://www.petitiononline.com/casec/petition.html. It's broke and we need to fix it. It should be clear by now the only way we can fix it is to do it ourselves.

Comment 7: Up Ecotopia!

I don't know what style government California would choose. That's up to Californians. Would it be ecotopia? I don't think so, but we will see. Whatever form of government we choose, it is my hope we would do away with official political parties. As George Washington warned, they have done far more harm than good.

Comment 6: Peaceful Secession Please

Yes, without question. It wouldn't work any other way.

Comment 5: No Taxation Without Representation

Moving sentiments from our past that apply as much to California now as they did to the colonies back then. Californians pay $58 billion a year more to the federal government than we get back in services. The electorial system that protects less populous states robs California of fair representation.

Comment 4: I'll move there!

I imagine the best and the brightest will want to move to Califonia. It will be a brain drain like we have seen in other countries. The giant sucking sound will be what few economic engines certain other states have as they start moving to California. California has always been the land of opportunity. Under a future looking government the possibilities are absolutely boundless.

Comment 3: I am Ready to be a Loyal Californian

It is sad that it has had to come to this. What is left to do when the future is so plainly written? It would be suicide not to act to protect ourselves. Protect ourselves from who you ask?

Ron Suskind, in a recent article (http://tinyurl.com/62343),
shows exactly why they don't like California. If you
are a Californian, here's what Mark McKinnon, a
longtime senior media adviser to Bush, says they think of you:

"... all of you, up and down the West Coast, the East Coast,
a few blocks in southern Manhattan called Wall Street. Let me
clue you in. We don't care. You see, you're outnumbered 2 to
1 by folks in the big, wide middle of America, busy working
people who don't read The New York Times or Washington Post or
The L.A. Times. And you know what they like? ...
They don't like you!''


From "Democracy Crumbles Under Cover of Darkness"
(http://tinyurl.com/6f4gp) we learn how never before has
the House of Representatives operated in such secrecy:
- At 2:54 a.m. on a Friday in March, the House cut veterans benefits
by three votes.
- At 2:39 a.m. on a Friday in April, the House slashed education and
health care by five votes.
- At 1:56 a.m. on a Friday in May, the House passed the tax-cut bill
by a handful of votes.
- At 2:33 a.m. on a Friday in June, the House passed the Medicare
privatization and prescription drug bill by one vote.
- At 12:57 a.m. on a Friday in July, the House eviscerated Head
Start by one vote.
- And then, after returning from summer recess, at 12:12 a.m. on a
Friday in October, the House voted $87 billion for Iraq. Always
in the middle of the night. Always after the press had passed
their deadlines. Always after the American people had turned off
the news and gone to bed.

Grover Norquist, an important conservative politcal consultant, has
made clear that he intends to ride the conservative movement to
the transformation of America into a one-party state -- and using
any means necessary to achieve that end.

Comment 2: California Would be a Great Indepedent Country

Yes she would. I believe one of the best in all history. If she only had the chance. Now we are stuck behind the first born brother who gets the entire inheritance and a domineering father that wants us only for the work we can do.

Comment 1: Add Oregon and Washington

I agree. This makes a lot of sense. But as I don't live in either of these states, I didn't want to speak for them. Down the road I hope such negotiations would take place.

Momentum Building for California Secession

I am happy and pleasantly surprised to see the movement for Califarnia's secession is gaining momentum. The petition at http://www.petitiononline.com/casec/petition.html has gained quite a few signatures and there are several interesting articles on the web as well.

People have responded in various ways. Some are excited and think it's a good idea for Californians. Some are excited because they hate California and would love to see her go. Some want their state to join in.

In the next several posts I'll address some of the issues raised about the petition. Is it anti-american? Are Californian's socialists? Will it be ecotopia? And a lot more.


California's Manifest Economy

In the course US development the doctrine of Manifest Destiny was intuitively understood as the justification for US expansion.

In the same way California's secession is a matter of Manifest Economy. California can not fullfill her bright destiny as long as a majority of the nation is living off her bountiful production. California money should stay in California to help Californians.

As if on cue we find another attack on California is in progress, as explained in this excellent article:
Proposal Would Hit Blue State Taxpayers (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2026&ncid=716&e=27&u=/latimests/20041205/ts_latimes/proposalwouldhitbluestatetaxpayers)

WASHINGTON — As President Bush lays the groundwork for a possible overhaul of the U.S. tax code, one option under consideration would deal its biggest financial blow to citizens of blue states such as California and New York.

....

"There's no question this effort would punish blue states," said Rep. Robert T. Matsui (D-Sacramento), a member of the tax-writing House Ways and Means Committee. Over time, he said, it could force state and local governments to cut expenditures.

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amount to a hidden tax increase for millions of California taxpayers, who already pay $58 billion a year more to the federal government than they get back in services.


For California to propsper she must be free. It's simpy a matter of Manifest Economy.

Tuesday, November 02, 2004

The South is Winning the Civil War

The South is Taking Over America by Other Means

From this election the one thing we know for certain
is that there are two americas: conservative and not-conservative.

If you are conservative and voting for Bush then it is
unlikely you'll vote any other way in future elections because:
1. Bush is not a traditional conservative.
2. Bush hasn't done a good job.

That leaves america with what looks to be a deep permanent divide.
And we know the conservative wing of the republican party is
not just trying to win, it is trying to take over.

One salvo is the war is "The Constitution Restoration Act of 2004"
(http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/ConstitutionRestorationAct.htm)
which is trying to replace the constitution with a bible based
government. Part of the bill says:

Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, the Supreme
Court shall not have jurisdiction to review, by appeal, writ of
certiorari, or otherwise, any matter to the extent that relief is
sought against an element of Federal, State, or local government,
or against an officer of Federal, State, or local government
(whether or not acting in official personal capacity), by reason
of that element’s or officer’s acknowledgment of God as the sovereign
source of law, liberty, or government.

It's intersting to note the people who are supporting this
bill are from the south and midwest. Take a look
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:HR03799:@@@P.

If you had your choice, who would you align your self with:
1. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin
or
2. Pat Robertson, Tom DeLay, George Bush

At least half of america is saying (2). This is a radical shift
to a group who wants to do away with our current form of
government and replace it with a bible based theocracy.

You don't believe this is what they really want to do?
Take a look at:
1. Theocratic Dominionism Gains Influence - http://www.publiceye.org/magazine/v08n1/chrisre1.html
2. Rogue Republican Dons in Congress - http://www.yuricareport.com/Corruption/RogueRepublicanBillsUnconstitutional.htm
3. The Despoiling of America - http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOfAmerica.htm
4. America Stands on the Edge of A Grave Constitutional Crisis Linked to Pat Robertson - http://www.yuricareport.com/Law%20%26%20Legal/AConstitutionalCrisis.htm
5. Coalition On Revival A Revival of Old Testament Law - http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/cor/general.htm
6. Bush 'Faith-Based' Agenda Spreading In Federal Government, Report Finds - http://www.au.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=6869&abbr=pr&security=1002&news_iv_ctrl=1241

The south is trying to win a war they lost 150 years ago: the civil war.
Only this time their weapons are religion and electoral votes.

We know the south is an economic backwater and left to their own devices
they will slip even further behind the rest of the world. Look
at religious nations like Iran for a picture of what the south
will look like when free of any moderating influences.

So let California go. Let the south and midwest dwell in their
own hell. Sign the petition for California to secede
http://www.petitiononline.com/casec/petition.html.

Wednesday, October 20, 2004

Arnold Schwarzenegger for President of California

Arnold, it's unlikely you will ever be president of the United States. But you could be president of California. That's right, you could be president of one of the largest, brightest, most dynamic countries in the world: California.

All we need to do is to free California from the anchor that is the US by making California her own country. To help this process along please sign:
http://www.petitiononline.com/casec/petition.html

Face it Arnold, you have nothing in common with those soft weak minded exteme conservatives. Instead of attacking the future they want to return to the world of 150 years ago.

At the same the south and midwest are living on hand outs financed by California.

California is a strong nation that will thrive on the international scene. The US is going backwards. That's clear for everyone to see.

Wouldn't you rather be president of California, the strongest nation on earth?